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Remember when popular media from overseas was changed around to somehow better suit an American audience because American kids would be scared of people with non-AMERICAN names?

Well, okay, yeah, there was Persona 1. BUT. What if that was the case for PersonaMush? How would your character or a character from the series be handled? It can make as much sense as you want it to- there were localizations that made the changes made to P1 seem, well, sane, after all. Was your character misunderstood due to a mistranslated word? Was their sex, accent, skin tone, and/or back story changed? Was their game sprite edited to be more appealing to an American audience? Did their dead relatives changed to instead be simply vacationing in Hawaii?

[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "we lost timmy"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose LOL
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "persona americanized??"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "timmy anderson"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "You must be Kevin Samson"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "probably"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "Tatsuya is"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "Tyler Samson"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "hahah"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "taylor also works"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "yes"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "Jun is Jackie"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "rofl what"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "you should just make a long post of this"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "a name that can be female and male!"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "i should"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "jun: suddenly female"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "June"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "there was a time when they might have done that"
[OOC] Enoha Koinose says, "yeeeeep"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "now a subplot about him masquerading (lol) as a woman at a boy's school is added"
[OOC] Katsuya Suou says, "or they don't even bother explaining it"

For the record, Enoha's name would be Erica Knuttson. She works at the 'Great Books' bookstore. Her brother, Issac, was rewritten for the game. He is instead working as a teacher in Canada.
Arisa is Alicia Shurrey. She's an African-American who likes basketball and dances crazy. She talks with a Brooklyn accent.

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riskygamble
Apr. 30th, 2011 08:05 am (UTC)
Ran's name is changed to Daisy in a sort of 'six degrees of separation' translation. She is now a super hippie/Valley Girl fusion, with a terrifying spray-on tan. She also says 'like' every third word and doesn't eat meat because it's, like, so cruel to the cute fuzzy animals!!
unclejam
Apr. 30th, 2011 09:03 am (UTC)
Sai becomes Mortinella del Diabolo (real name: Shirley Quart)
ianthefira
Apr. 30th, 2011 02:28 pm (UTC)
Hilariously, I've done this before!

Miwa Saitou is Mia Saller. She becomes an insufferable snotty goody-two-shoes high school student at Seven Sisters (no change??). People don't realize she acts out at night, primarily by running off to goth clubs in disguise.

Minako Arisato is now Mina Archer, a student at Moonlight High. She's still a Pollyanna, but much more annoying about it. Think Little Orphan Annie and you've got it. She ends up transferring to another school in March.

Katsuya Suou, as mentioned before, is Kevin Samson, a local police detective. He's convinced that the local cool kids are up to no good and is constantly trying to find evidence of that wrongdoing so he can have them arrested. Basically an un-fun stick-in-the-mud! ...wait a second.


Edited at 2011-04-30 03:42 pm (UTC)
theeternalmind
Apr. 30th, 2011 02:55 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure how a DiC-style dubbing would handle Jun, given as either way, you have either homosexuality or cross-dressing. I suspect they'd leave him male, but all his dialogue that implies anything ~*romantic*~ would be turned into HEY DUDE HOW'S IT GOING WE SURE ARE GOOD FRIENDS, FRIENDS IS ALL WE ARE. BFF, MAN!! Zoisite from Sailormoon was turned into a woman, but that's because it would've been near-impossible to excise his relationship with Kunzite without chopping out a whooooole lot of footage, and it was easier to let people think he was kinda flat. Hell, in some shots, it even looked like he had a chest anyway, he was that girly, so it kind of worked out...

Anyway.

Tohru Adachi would become Tommy Anderson. He'd be more or less the same except he would be much more of a comic-book villain. Also it'd be obvious within two lines of dialogue that he was the killer, because we can't expose our children to people who seem nice but are actually bad. No, bad people need to be obviously bad from the very start, or it might, I dunno, teach them that people aren't always what they seem and not to go by your first impressions of someone.

Akatsuki Enda would be Alex Ender. He would be mostly the same, except for overblown with the whole good twin/bad twin dichotomy, to the point where he's almost self-parody. The same would be likely to happen to Kyo, too. Also, he probably wouldn't write poetry anymore, since poetry is girly or whatever.

Nagisa Renge would become Shelley--just Shelley, no last name bothered with--in a quasi-translated semi-similar name (Nagisa = shore = shells are on a shore = Shelley). I'm not sure how a white-washing dubber would even handle Nagisa, given how complicated and potentially triggering her issues are. Probably she'd end up having just gotten caught up in Strega because she was lonely and she's just misunderstood and needs someone to teach her to be a good girl, and scenes of her knifing people would get forgotten on the cutting board.

Mamoru Yasuragi would be Martin Luther Shields (Martin for short). His violent streak would be played up mostly for laughs because HA HA super-violence, what a gag! Any depth he has would be neatly excised through dialogue changes in favor of making him a one-dimensional gag character.
matildarose
Apr. 30th, 2011 03:20 pm (UTC)
Are you saying Jun likes dudes???

On another topic, I suppose Erica's relationship with Adachi would be cut out, because anyone would clearly see Adachi is trouble from a mile away and not fall in love with him. Because everyone knows someone is bad right from the start.
ianthefira
Apr. 30th, 2011 08:03 pm (UTC)
Wow, I just now notice what I'd actually said instead of what I meant to say.

I'd meant to say 'Jun is now a girl dressing as a boy in a boy-only school'. WHOOPS

I blame 2 AM.
theeternalmind
May. 1st, 2011 12:42 am (UTC)
Haha, no, I understood what you meant--what I meant was, now Jun would be a cross-dressing female.
dietyoffreetime
Apr. 30th, 2011 04:16 pm (UTC)
Yoshiro's name would be Sean (just that, that's how they rolled back then with the localization in '96), and would be a pizza delivery guy and likely not all that feminine in appearance as he is here.

Midori would be untranslated and cut content, Snow Queen Quest got dummied out in '96. She did have an IC nickname, Melody, that did poke fun at this a bit though.

Hi guys, haven't seen you all in a while.
ianthefira
Apr. 30th, 2011 04:19 pm (UTC)
come baaaaaaack
nimriye
Apr. 30th, 2011 05:20 pm (UTC)
Kyo would become Kyle Ender. He would be your typical evil twin who is a good kid by day and then kicks puppies by night. Incestuous subtext cut for American sensibilities!!

Shinjiro would become Seth Andrews. He would be, basically, the Fonz.
riskygamble
Apr. 30th, 2011 09:29 pm (UTC)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY.
snotman
Apr. 30th, 2011 05:57 pm (UTC)
Shiki Ichimonji becomes Steve Powers, ADD kid with an obsession for superhero comics, edited to wear a red Ninja Turtle-like mask at all times for some ungodly reason. His character remains mostly the same, except Captain R is instead a thinly-veiled combination of Captain America and Superman.

Dona Kimura becomes Dana Mirra, and is generally a much friendlier character from the start, who is rescued from bullies by the Shinsengumi (here known as the Justice Squad or something), who clearly has nothing more important on its agenda.

Daiya Kagami becomes the even more confusingly-named Diana Mirra. She basically acts like an ungodly combination of Amy Rose, Rita Repulsa and Starscream. Nobody figuring out her secrets in this version has nothing to do with her having a hint of intelligence or subtlety, but rather with every single one of them being written PHENOMENALLY STUPID and every boy having an overblown crush on her regardless of what little sense that makes. She likes to hold hands with Alex Ender.
kuribo_power
Apr. 30th, 2011 06:32 pm (UTC)
Mai would be Mary Moore, except for that brief time where she pretended to be her dead sister Nancy. It would not have been elaborated much on why, beside some brief text about wanting to keep her memory alive. Her behavior could easily be summed up as:



Minus the cowl and stuff. She would be a magic type mostly until she'd reveal her 'true self' and real aptitudes.
thewaterknight
May. 1st, 2011 01:06 am (UTC)
Oh god, this is going to be terrible. Here goes.

Shinsuke ends up becoming Percy Riverdale, the closest thing to Kusagawa, "grassy river", the localisation team could come up with; "Percy" is just a snobby name (and is short for Percival, so Arthurian!). He's a stuck-up rich kid who dates all the girls at Gekkoukan; these dates and girlfriends are essentially an Informed Attribute, as they're never shown on-screen. (Yes, all those times Shinsuke is politely divesting himself of a girl, he's /actually/ inviting her to dinner. 9_6) The trauma and anxiety over his parents' divorce and his separation from Itsuka is completely gone -- divorce is more socially acceptable here -- and they totally weren't separated for that long because that's terrible. His homosexuality is completely written out. That's a no-brainer. Any episodes where he actually deals with it are either canned (resulting in fewer "spotlight episodes" than the rest of the cast gets) or rewritten with more innocuous content. All the subtlety and impact of his relationship with Alex/Akatsuki is also lost; instead, they're probably just super twin BFFs or something. And, like with Kyo/Kyle, the creepy subtext of his relationship with his sister is just gone. Percy's Persona control issues are mostly unexplained; only his glowing eyes are ever referenced, and he has those because he's just inexplicably "more powerful" or something similarly ridiculous. And yes, his Persona is probably renamed Lancelot because no one knows who the fuck Kay is.

Tatsuya is Tybalt Sanford; the name wackiness so crucial to the original version is lost because oh well. The localisation team chose "Tybalt" as a cute joke -- "prince of cats", King Leo, it's funny! Which, of course, means that hordes of ninth-graders automatically despise him because he reminds them of that stupid play they had to read for English class. There is no mention of his mixed heritage because now being a tall blond white guy doesn't make him look weird. Like Adachi, Tybalt is reduced to a one-dimensional bad guy. The episodes that focus on his issues are generally cut, because American children need to learn that you shouldn't sympathise with bad guys, especially terrorists. His obsession with Jun is easily explained by his being completely batshit insane...which is pretty much the official explanation for everything he does, because the mentally ill are scary and bad and kids should learn to fear them.

Honestly, they'd both give localisation teams a headache.
thewaterknight
May. 1st, 2011 01:12 am (UTC)
So apparently I forgot we weren't talking about anime. Oops. Basically the same though, minus the "episodes" bit.
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